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by  Anonymous 2/06/2008 5:52 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
Talk about breed racism! Pit advocates really hate cockers!

See what I mean! There appears to be a direct correlation between pro-pit advocates and the usage of a "biting cocker spaniel."

In the first example, the web author goes as far as adding a special search tag "bitten by cocker spa..." to the web page.

Search Engine Tags: bulldogs and pitbull... pro pitt bull pitbull fighting for... bitten by cocker spa... pitbull fighting gen...

I've never been attacked by a pit bull I have been bit by a cocker spaniel (10 stiches)!!
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My son was mauled by a cocker at 18 mos in a day care, and you know the local police wouldn't do a darn thing because "it is a cocker spaniel..."
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look up the info on the canine good citizens test and you will find pitbulls in the top five breeds most passing the test effortlessly with flying colors. compare that with say ..cocker spaniels. speaking of cocker spaniels they are one of the few breeds of dog that have been proven to go mad without warning consitantly (they call it cocker spaniel rage syndrome)
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Did you know the number one dog to bite children is the Cocker Spaniel? Yes, the sweet furry little cocker spaniel will bite quicker than a bulldog
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Also, any dog can get angry and bite. I was bitten by a cocker spaniel when I was a kid.
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I was attacked by a Labrador and bitten twice by Cocker Spaniels. I have yet to have a pit bull bite me
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i have never been bitten by a pit bull, and i have worked with probably at least 100 ... i have been bitten by a WEIMARANER, COCKER SPANIELSee link

How about the Cocker Spaniel that bit me while I was playing with it when I was a kid?
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I grew up with pit bulls. I ended up getting mauled by a cocker spaniel
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My son was attacked and bitten by a neighbor's cocker spaniel
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I have however been bit many times by chihauhaus, cocker spaniels, and a collie
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In that time I was bitten by cocker spaniels, cockapoo's, schnauzers,mutts,poodles...Never once was I bitten by a well mannered amstaff or pit.
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by  Dog Lover 2/06/2008 6:45 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
Oh, I'm glad someone else noticed that...it's bugged me for years. The whole cocker spaniel obsession.

What really cracks me up is that pit owners explain away pit bull attacks by insisting that its the owners fault...that pit bulls only attack because they have been treated meanly and abused by their owners. Remember, dogs are just dogs..."its all how you raise them." The pit bulls history as a fighting dog doesn't matter, all they need is love and they will be fine. That is the fundamental premise of the pro-pit anti BSL argument; nurture over nature.

But in the next breath, pit bull fans will insist that cocker spaniels are the most aggressive dog on the planet. That is, cocker spaniels as a BREED have aggressive tendencies. But if pit bulls are aggressive only because they have been "trained to fight", why are Cockers aggressive? Are cocker spaniels owned by dog fighters? Are they owned by drug dealers and used to guard meth labs? Do they have names like "Junkie" and "Manson"? Are cocker spaniels being walked by hoodlums and thugs with logging chains around their necks? Was anyone breeding cocker spaniels deliberately for aggressive temperaments? No. American Cocker spaniels became popular, and puppy mills and back yard breeders bred them indiscriminantly, leading to all kinds of genetic health and temperament problems. These were family dogs and lap dogs...no one was advertising or promoting aggressive cockers.

So the pro-pit lobby argues that pit bulls, who are widely overbred almost exclusively by irresponsible, for-profit back yard breeders, who were created to bait bulls and kill other dogs...and who are currently still being bred for dog fighting AND for human aggressive temperaments by MANY breeders (a fact that can be proven with a quick internet search of the hundreds of scary pit bull kennels)....want us to believe that pit bulls are not genetically aggressive, no matter what their genetic makeup. Every story where a pit bull attacks someone, and the owner claims they never saw it coming, that the dog was a well loved family pet, all those people are liars.

But cocker spaniels...those floppy eared, 20 pound dogs your great Aunt Fern loves....somehow, those dogs ARE genetically aggressive.

Note to the pit bull lobby...you can't have it both ways. Either genetics matter or they don't. Your great Aunt Ferns cocker spaniel that bit you when you were 8, was not being trained to fight other cockers by Michael Vick. And I don't think your Aunt Fern had a meth lab. If poor breeding led to biting cockers, then the deliberate breeding of aggressive pit bulls has doomed this breed.

by  schultz 2/06/2008 6:57 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
http://www.workingpitbull.com/aboutpits.htm

"It's all how you raise them!" - NOT!

Some people assume - incorrectly - that a dog's temperament is primarily shaped by how it is raised. You have heard these people say "It's all how you raise them!"

This statement is not only inaccurate, it is unfair to the animal, which, in reality, is influenced primarily by its genetics. You cannot raise a border collie to be a champion fighting dog, and you cannot raise a cocker spaniel to work rough stock. A retriever won't win at the dog track, and a greyhound won't lead the blind. Environment can and does influence a dog's behavior in so much as certain traits can be encouraged or discouraged, but a genetically shy or aggressively unsound dog cannot be "fixed" no matter how much that high priced "behaviorist" tries to convince you that it can.

by  Anonymous 2/06/2008 9:02 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
I love it, the "The whole cocker spaniel obsession!" There truly is one!

The pit bull that bit me? His name was BULL (no bull!)

Is there such thing as a bull cocker? Boy am I really in a mood tonight.

by  David 2/06/2008 9:53 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
I have a freind that had a pit bull and he had it jumping in the air to grab hold of a pair of blue jeans tied in a knot at the end. The dog would hang there and swing it's head back and forth until it tore off a piece of the jeans. The whole time it's feet were a foot off the ground. I recently asked them about this and his dad said it made that dog " meaner than hell". When I saw this I was shocked. The dog would just keep jerking it's head from side to side. I can see why people think they have locking jaws. I have since learned that this is called "Swing Fly" and many kennel practice this while claiming they don't teach their dogs to be aggressive. What a load of crap.

by  Anonymous 2/06/2008 10:17 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
The so-called Swing Flying phenomenon is horriyfing. YouTube, what a glorious invention:

Ha, ha, funny, funny
Sounds like he's chocking here
You are Swinging, good girl!
Git it bur!
Soundless swinging
How high of a fence does a pit bull need?
More tree climbing
Combo climb and hang

by  DoggyDaddy 2/06/2008 10:41 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
I would find another insurance company. That agent was out of line. My pit bull would have barked at him too and I never trained him in protection or guard duty. Most dogs will bark at strangers who look over their fence.

by  DoggyDaddy 2/06/2008 10:45 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
To David,

A lot of people use swing poles to exercise their pits. I think your friend's father was just trying to scare you which was wrong of him.

by  tiffany 2/06/2008 10:58 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
Sometimes you can get a policy that excludes your dog, but that's not advisable, since it is a risk, there's always companies that will insure such dogs, but the rates may be higher.

by  schultz 2/07/2008 12:18 AM  |  Flag as abusive  
i knew a cocker spaniel growing up and he wasn't all that nice. but then again, it was an old cranky dog, probably arthritic.
i am not a big fan of small of dogs in general. many of of them do seem to suffer from some kind of napoleon complex. i don't know, maybe they feel vulnerable with all of these big things walking around tripping and stepping on them. cocker spaniels probably do actually bite more frequently BUT what do those bites amount to?
has a cocker spaniel ever de-gloved a human arm or leg?
do their bites ever require reconstructive surgery?
do cocker spaniel owners carry around break sticks?
has anyone ever trained a cocker spaniel to swing on a rope?

by  Anonymous 2/07/2008 3:10 AM  |  Flag as abusive  
Another victimhood propaganda piece
from the Pit Bull people...The article failed to mention that Pit Bulls killed more people than all other breeds combined in 2007.


“That’s why they are easily trained to fight. They will do what that owner wants them to do,” McClanahan said.

She doesn't even know what she owns...The dogs were grotesquely selected via the fighting pit for two centuries. Thats why they fight!

by  Dog Lover 2/07/2008 6:41 AM  |  Flag as abusive  
To doggydaddy.....why does anyone need a swingpole to exercise their pit? How about teaching your dog to play frisbee? Chase a tennis ball? How about exersizing your pit by taking him on a nice three mile walk, all the while practicing good leash manners and socialization skills?

Why don't Golden Retriever owners train their dogs with swing poles, do you think? Most normal human beings who want a family pet can find about a million ways to exercise their dog without training him to grab, bite, hang on and shake. Normal people aren't specifically trying to build their dogs jaw strength and capacity to bite down hard, hang on and not let go.

Swing poles are used by dogfighters, thugs, punks and creeps who are testing their dogs "gameness", building jaw strength, and deliberately training the dog to act aggressively. Humane groups have unanimously advised against using springpoles because it encourages aggressive behavior. Pit bulls whose owners use springpoles are very dangerous animals....they have been trained and encouraged to bite down hard and NOT to stop; they can inflict horrific damage if ever they decide to go after a human being or other anmal.

Thanks for pointing out that "a lot of people use spring poles to exercise their pits". That would explain all the horrific maulings by "pet" pit bulls, and gives us yet another glimpse into the strange, violent world of the "typical" pit bull owner.

by  David 2/07/2008 6:45 AM  |  Flag as abusive  
My friends father didn't need to scare me, I saw the dog myself. I've been friends with this family for 30 years. The father was afraid of the dog himself. The dog would growl at him when he took it food. He got rid of it one weekend his son was out of town and refuses to tell what happened to the dog. I also talked with a former PB Breeder that said any tug of war game reinforces aggression. This dog could hold it's whole body weight off the ground and jerk it's heads from side to side for as long as 20 minutes. I don't known how long dogs from a kennel that trains their dogs to do this. I do know that it really reps these dogs up. I saw it with my own eyes, so I don't need to have it explained away. It is without a shadow of a doubt aggression training. Swing Fly, a very dangerous game, I think anyone doing this to a dog should be reported.

by  schultz 2/07/2008 1:09 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
hey as long as we are sharing youtube videos, here is my favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=113iWu9cMt0

pay close attention to the pit bull's escalation in aggression AFTER he is shot and before he collapses!

that is one scary dog.

by  Anonymous 2/07/2008 1:13 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
So scary YouTube took it down!

by  schultz 2/07/2008 1:18 PM  |  Flag as abusive  
no it's there, you just to click to confirm our birthday-the video has been flagged.

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